One of the things my new doula (birth assistant) J. suggested yesterday was that we in azania try a token-based work/chore list in order to provide incentive for work and
chores to get done.
I pointed out to her, that since bongafish and phoenix specialize in sabotage
and passive aggression and since they prefer convenience, this might
But I think it's still worth a try.
I'd like to propose that we establish a list of household chores and a
list of one shot house cleaning stuff that might only happen once or
twice a year and a list of azania to do's like keeping finances in
check, checking phone messages, responding to emails, posting on the
azania listserv, posting on our personal listservs, spending stinkapee
time, waking up at night with stinkapee, orgnizing and doing special
activities with stinkapee, making meals, house laundry, proposing and
writing grant applications, bill payment organizing, job searches for
azania members, writing cover letters, researching purchases,
negotiating openly and truthfully, offering emotional support to
azania members, plus whatever else people can think of (this isn't a
comprehensive list, so don't be fucking lazy and use it as the basis
for the token/work list).
For me the plus to this would be not having to police phoenix, bongafish's
and seminalson's work. If the job isn't done (well), I'm sure other people
will object to the person who was supposed to get the token getting
The tokens would be good for stuff we might not normally make room for
like money for nights out, dinners, hair colouring, smokes,
clothing/shoe shopping money, movies, trips out of the province, trips
out of the country. Like Air Miles. The list of prizes would have to
be established by all of you. We'd have to set aside a percentage of
monies in a fund to pay for this stuff.
Obviously, tokens would have to accumulate much more for big ticket
items than for smaller things. Obviously, some jobs might be more
involved or more nasty or sweaty or time consuming and these would get
more tokens/points than other jobs. So, this means that although
person could stretch out a task like washing the dishes or cleaning
the bathtub or sweeping the floor, they won't get any more points for
doing that task than they would if they did many lower token tasks
quickly and effectively, thereby racking up some big points.
This wouldn't get a person out of doing the everyday tasks they've
already commited to doing, it will just attach a very literal value to
the work they are doing.
Anyways, I'm proposing that the three of you bang something out,
discuss it, tweek it and post it in clear sight so we can get moving
I think the putting the work list and establishing values to the different work that needs to get done is really important and in of itself valuable.
i'm thinking tracking the work that people do (in chart format) could get really cumbersome and fill up real quick (if done on a fridge for example)
but perhaps if people keep track of the work that they do and post it online-- say on a weekly basis that might work.
and ultimately it is good for us to ground in and speak to and make visible the work we do (and dont do-- speaking for me as the one who clings most to doing convenient and easy tasks) in relation to each other.
and i guess, if just the fact of taking care of our own home, or buiding my own home hasnt been enough motivation for me-- perhaps the 'rewards' will work as motivation.
It all seems kind of yucky and distasteful-- need to get rewarded to do work in my own house-- but I suppose this is where I would say-- well my choices not to do work in my own house and to leave and or force that work on others is yucky and distasteful for others around me.
so that said...
I say green to this proposal. I'm good for meeting with seminal and bongafish to hammer out and post the specifics of the Azania work list, rewards list, and point system.darkdaughta wrote:
I don't trust you or bongafish to keep track honestly of the work you do.
This is what you've been trusted to do already and you have both taken
advantage of this to do the minimum amount of work possible, when forced.darkdaughta wrote:
I took a list from the Paramount's bathroom when seminalson and I saw the movie on
Sunday. I think if they can use lists with "done" and with initials of
who saw that it was sufficiently well done and if they can do this for
probably one hundred employees, if not more, on any given day, it
shouldn't be such a stretch for us to chart the work of four adults in
a house...unless of course, you and bongafish make it really difficult and
cumbersome to do so. Yeah, I'll take this as your notice letting me
know that you're planning on doing just that.bongafish wrote:
I will go ahead with the list.
I have been thinking about how I will attempt to sabotage the Token-Based
work list, even though I think it is a good idea. I was hiding this in
draft, here it is:
I won't keep track of the work that I do in a Token-based work list, I'll
passively aggressively sabotage the list until it becomes too much of a
struggle to maintain:
I will mark things as completed while leaving the cleanup or reset
I'll also drag work along slowly so that the higher value tasks will get
done at the expense of my daily chores,
I'll plan time poorly so that someone else has to finish up, but I'll expect
to get the tokens for it,
I'll also leave the entire creation and maintenance of the list for seminalson or
darkdaughta, or phoenix if she's on, to supervise,
I'll also take a long break from working on high token tasks once I redeem
the tokens. For example, if I get a pack of cloves after accruing x number
of tokens, then I'll not do work until that pack has been smoked, then work
only when I want another one.
or I'll not do any work at all, and commit to more of a life of misery, with
nothing that I enjoy. I think this system works only for those who want to
enjoy their lives, and I'm okay with not.
or I'll manipulate other people to get what I want without having to use the
token system at all.
I'll procrastinate on making the list actually happen - taking a long time
to set it up, suggest minor changes along the way that will stretch out the
time it will take to get the list up and running.
because token, or no token, I don't want to do work.
and I'll also doubly sabotage it because it is a suggestion from someone
outside of Azania.
So this is what I will do if the Token-based Azania work list proposal
manages to get off the ground.
Why would I do this? I would do this because I want to maintain the level of
non-work that I've created. I think that I'm not getting enough of what I
want as it is, why make it harder for me to get more? This list will prevent
me from manipulating attention from everyone in the house, but in order of
importance, darkdaughta, seminalson, phoenix, stinkapee, - for doing work. I'll just have to be accountable to myself and this list, that won't give me attention - except
for the reward at the end of the day... which will take work to build up.
*my* work. And while I understand it, it goes against my position in life,
which is to have someone else to prepare the way for me.
That said, I propose to work in losing tokens as a consequence for
sabotaging the list. I will post this on the blog later today. I am later
than I said I'd be getting back, and I have to change the names to the
handles before putting it on the blog. .. then I'll respond to myself.phoenix wrote:
usually when I express doubt about my capacity to do something, or say I anticipate this problem or this difficulty with doing a certain thing, I usually follow by letting whatever I've identifed/created as a block become a block ( in the mornings-- saying "I cant/ wont get nemo ready with brushing her teeth, bathing) ("I am not willing/ able to be emotionally present and supportive with anyone in Azania)
in other words- I say I cant do something and then go on to not do that something
instead of taking the next step and thinking about what I would need to do to make something work
so I understand that it is based on my track record of me more usually NOT DOING exactly that which I say I cant/ wont or see as complicated/difficult to do that you are saying: "Yeah, I'll take this as your notice letting me know that you're planning on doing just that."
that said, I think the token based work list can be made to work, and I'm willing to try
as the day goes on (when I'm alone) I'll keep adding to this list I've put in a table format (continuing off of darkdaughtas first email when she proposed the token-based list)
the list I'm working on is attached as a word document
then we can put together all the different lists we come up with and go from there...
in terms of ranking/adding a value to them
and then adding a value to the list of tokens we all come up with.