We've pretty much separated your stuff from ours...

Biafra,
I think that I mentioned in one of the two last communications I emailed to you via the listserv that we weren't going to be sorting through your things, differentiating between what you'd like to keep and what you'd like to dispose of for you.

Yet, in the proposal you sent, under the guise of leaving things for us to use, you've basically downloaded the job of taking care of the things you no longer want or can't deal with figuring out what to do with onto us.

"I propose to come with a van and movers to do the loading and moving of my belongings except for the following. I’m proposing that the move happen in one day, in a couple of hours, with everything packed, sorted negotiated before hand.
I would like to leave most things that is if it agreed, that are currently in use at the house, unless azanians would like for me to keep them or have no use for them then I will keep them and move them along with the rest of my things they include

Furnishings: the futon frame and mattress, the dining table that seminal son and darkdaughta bought for me, the lamps that were in dawn, the storage cabinet in the kitchen that I picked up with seminal son, the orange mat, the orange stool, the metal storage shelf in the shower bathroom, the garbage can, the plastic baskets, the ikea hanging unit, the wicker jewellery holders that darkdaughta gave to me.

Appliances: the can opener, I have one already
Utensils: I am indifferent especially as they became collective and I do not remember what came with. The same applies to wine/drinking glasses and mugs and plates.

Sheets: The chocolate sheet set that was bought collectively, the orange bed cover,
Books: I leave with the books that were on my shelf before I moved into woodbine house, everything else was bought collectively for azania.

Clothing: there are some special items that I am fine with leaving/returning to azania. the leather jacket that darkdaughta got phoenix to buy for me, all the purses, the blue corset, the pink lingerie, the big black rubber/leather jacket, the black studded belt darkdaughta picked for me.

I’d like to keep all my shoes including the ones that darkdaughta bought for me, I’d like to take the leather vest. I’d like to take all my pictures and photo album."

And so, we'd be left, against our wishes to decide how best to dispose of your things for you, leaving you to simply move the things you want into your new place. Which might have been fine (NOT) if you had actually requested and negotiated for this to happen. As it stands, we've been forced to gather all your things together, are still in the process of gathering all your things together and no one is interested in moving from sorting our stuff from yours to sorting out the things you've decided you'll keep from the things you'll leave with us to figure out. As you well know from our collective move last May, disposal of household objects is intense and expensive work, involving rubbish movers and potentially weeks of garbage/clutter around the outside of the house that we'd have to persuade the garbage people to take away bit by bit.

This will be your job, not ours. And although we'd be foolish to turn down the three practical offerings in your whole list - the futon which has found a home in the new family room, the microwave cabinet and the goat skin lamp (which was mine) - we're mostly not interested in assisting you in avoiding the emotional fallout of having to sort through the vestiges of the life you sort of shared with us. Truth be told there's no disguising or compensating for the fact that you've already left most of the dealing with the anger, hurt, disappointment that have come up so far while sifting through your things to us.

In terms of having to pick your things up from Taz...
Yes, through waiting until the absolute last minute to offer a counter proposal, rather than generating a proposal (like one of your exams or papers for school), you left the decision about how the move would take place entirely with us. So, now the move isn't primarily about dealing with your stuff. It's about moving in phoenix and her things which happens to necessitate clearing out the room. The best option for us is to get moving men to cart the things that are occupying the space (your things) over to Taz's whiere you can pick them up at your (and her) leisure without roping us indirectly into conversations and interactions that would be best initiated by you intentionally when you're actually willing and able.

It hasn't escaped any of us that the one thing that finally lit a fire under your ass and forced you to come up with some shoddy last minute proposal was us saying we would move your things over to Taz's where you would then have to deal with her (someone as unethical and flighty and uncommunicative and undercover enraged as yourself) rather than with us who you've constructed as your tormentors, the people you had to run away from, all the while knowing that you had been dealt with more fairly and ethically by us than you had chosen to treat us.

So, it makes sense that you would hop to it and attempt to do a zero hour quickie negotiation with us rather than go and deal with light-skinned, oftimes undercover dominating, cruel and condescending Taz who you know is as enfuriating and difficult to deal with as you are.

So what you wrote about the expense of moving is true, but you will not be able to manipulate us into helping you avoid any of uncomfortableness of this move by pushing buttons about money and scarcity. As I said, this move is no longer about you and your convenience. You made certain of that. It's now about us and ours. We're not here to be manouvered into taking care of you and your concerns while you stoke your own rage over us having avoided the life that was alloted to you. We've all got our own horrible, painful baggage to carry without having to shoulder yours as well.

Also, we all understand as do you, one simple fact. You are a breaker. This is something you haven't incorporated into your lovely proposal to come and move your own things. Your suppressed rage and pain usually bubbles to the surface in the form of things around you being destroyed while you stare and smile sheepishly and deny any knowledge of how this thing or that thing could have been destroyed...while you were in its general vicinity.

Biafra, given the fact that you haven't been sharing your thoughts and feelings on your blog or one this one, there's no way for us to be sure of what you'd be bringing in terms of harm to our home when/if you came to move your things.

This sort of conversation would have had to have taken place a while ago, probably under the watchful eye of the mediators I proposed you find, as part of a larger conversation about how exactly we were going to effectively and intentionally disentangle our lives from each others.

This is also something you yourself could have broached at the council or in the time afterwards or in your proposal post. As it stands, it's clear that you're probably sitll in denial about how much havoc you can wreak in a space simply by not fessing up to your own feelings.

Yet another reason why picking your things up from Taz who is also packing and moving will be better than coming here where we're in the process of rebuilding our home.